Posts by The Searcher

what better time of the year (than hogmanay) to encourage lurkers to examine black & white examples of org teachings which are false, and for them to rebelliously examine what is presented as "truth?

" (km september 2007 - question box) .

here are some previous examples for those who have yet to read them: .

What better time of the year (than Hogmanay) to encourage lurkers to examine black & white examples of Org teachings which are false, and for them to rebelliously examine what is presented as "truth?" (KM September 2007 - Question Box)

Here are some previous examples for those who have yet to read them:

#1 - Christ's ransom sacrifice was meaningless, because the Org's literal interpretation of Romans 6:7 assures us that our personal death wipes out our sins"! (w98 7/1 p. 22 par. 15 - "when they died, they were acquitted of the sins they committed during their lifetime.") Christ didn't die for our sins, we do that for ourselves!

#2 - The foreigners who joined the Israelites, and picture the 'other sheep', were not participants of the Law Covenant - they were only "beneficiaries."

w98 2/1 p. 11 par. 13 - "What was the standing of such proselytes? When Jehovah made his covenant, it was only with Israel; those of the vast mixed company," although present, were not named as participants. See also jr chap. 14 p. 169 par. 4

(Deuteronomy 29:10-15 debunks this one, as does the inclusion of two "non"-Israelites who were included in the Messiah's family tree - Rahab & Ruth!)

#3 - w10 4/15 p. 11 par. 17 - "How will Jehovah use his holy spirit in the coming new world? That spirit will be the force behind the new scrolls that will be opened at that time. (Rev. 20:12) What will these contain? Evidently, Jehovah’s detailed requirements for us during the thousand years."

(Revelation 20:12 says nothing about "new" scrolls, nor anything about them containing teachings - they contain judgments. Verses 1-11 clearly show that the scrolls are only opened after Satan is destroyed - not during the 1000 years.)

#4 - All serious sins must be reported to J.W. elders, who will then appoint a Judicial Committee to investigate, interrogate, and then have their judgment announced to the congregation.

(A role-playing exercise for Family Worship Evening:- follow Jesus' "script" at Matthew 18:15-17 and see exactly how every Christian should deal with such a situation. No elders or committees mentioned!)

#5 Every Christian must witness for............................................. Jehovah???????

Not according to the Bible. Not one single Scripture even hints at this for Christians, but an abundance of them commands Christians to witness for Christ! http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/70840001/attention-all-bethelite-lurkers

Have a truly rewarding 2016 by testing the "inspired expressions" from Brooklyn which are bewildering and distressing so many who are suffering in silence.

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....2016....

by zeb in

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friends

with this year all about done i wish you all a healthy and safe 2016.. live long and prosper.

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The Searcher

I echo your sentiments 100%.

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My Experience with Wordly Guys

by LaurenM in

sorry, two posts in a day..but i need to vent something: so far my experience with "worldly" guys has not been the best 1. my first guy experience was with a dude who left state and never came back 2. a coworker asked me to netflix and chill and i did 3. a guy wanted to sext me all the time but never took me out on a date and i did 4. a guy who took me on a great date but then asked me up to his apartment immediately after and then didn't call me after 5. finally, another great date, until after the guy texted me asking for nude pics..told him no!

so basically i've concluded that i had been giving off a vibe that i had no self respect and that was confirmed by me allowing them to use me as a sex object..but i'm hoping that not all worldly guys are like this, and when i start acting like i have self respect, they will treat me like that too?

is that a good assumption?

The Searcher

LaurenM - You are clearly a girl who is very attractive to guys, so give yourself time & opportunity to meet someone who isn't just turned on by your looks. Let them "tune in" to you as a person - and vice-versa.

Mutual respect and admiration will result.

Pretty soon you'll both discover if your relationship is based on & satisfied by each other's various emotional characteristics, rather than solely the physical urges which can easily be gratified by any good looking woman.

You will find someone who is on your "wavelength", and I'll bet it's when you least expect it! Enjoy 2016.

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The jw.org billions

by Gorbatchov in

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it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.

The Searcher

Hey Gorby, your post echoed what me and my best friend (non-J.W.) were discussing yesterday, namely, that due to their money/power, the Org (not G.B.) appears to have "friends and influence" within certain governments - especially in the U.S.A. - which seem to shield it from having its practices critically examined.

Let's hope that in 2016, the U.K. Charities Commission Enquiry publicly exposes the Org's British "skeletons in the cupboard."

ADDED: I don't believe for a moment that the 7 front-men for the Org have any control whatsoever over the financial resources of the corporation. Puppets don't pull their own strings!

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The story of my exit

by mrsObfuscate in

i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.

i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .

my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.

The Searcher

Welcome Obfuscate household - what a lovely way to end the year, by hearing your very encouraging story.

It's great to know that there are many like you who are visiting sites to find out what nasty things are hiding in the Org's closet.

I feel very confident that 2016 is going to present J.W.'s with more severe "beatings" from their evil slave controllers, due to the sheep's adverse reaction to the constant fleecing.

The Org is rapidly reaching the point of "flogging a dead horse", because so many folks are switching off mentally & financially.

Have a great year on your new road in life.

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ultimatum stop the practice of shunning or lose your charity status.

by joe134cd in

just curious what would wt do if a government said reform your policy on shunning or you will lose your charity status.

we will also be monitoring your reforms and there will be consequences if not brought up to our standards.

The Searcher

Ditto Smiddy.

The Charities Commission should take a long hard look at - and revise - the legal and operational qualifications which define "charity", and re-assess existing charities to see if they fulfill the requirements.

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CO visit; going to meeting.

by SG098 in

hello everyone!just a little background info, i haven't been to a meeting in over a year.

my wife has asked me to go with her tonight to help watch our son since it's the circuit overseers visit...my wife wants to be able to pay attention and get something out of the meeting since our son is 1yr old he can be a handful some times.. a few things of note about the situation:.

- i'm going to the meeting no matter what.

The Searcher

"We've missed you." - Well, I'll never turn visitors away!

"Are you going to start coming back?" - I'll definitely let you know if I do!

"Wasn't that a wonderful meeting!" - I've had a lovely evening - but this wasn't it! (G.M.)

Any attempts by the wolves to "have a chat" with you, ask them what it's about, and if the subject matter is not to your liking, simply say, "Not at the moment, but thank you for the offer."

If they try to push it by saying, "But it'll only take a couple of minutes", rinse & repeat!